Late, Late Show with Craig Kilborn
May 18th/19th, 2001
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Many Thanks! to a Totally Kate contributor for the transcription
Craig Kilborn: For the past seven years our next guest has captained the starship Voyager on its quest to return home. Next Wednesday marks the show's final episode where we see if their mission was accomplished. (Film clip from Endgame.) Please welcome the vivacious Kate Mulgrew.
Craig Kilborn: Oh, we're gonna miss you.
Kate Mulgrew: What a wonderful audience.
Craig Kilborn: Aren't they great?
Kate Mulgrew: You look very dashing.
Craig Kilborn: You know, I've interviewed you for a few years and today I kept saying your name wrong in the office. I kept saying MulGREW, MulGREW. It's MULgrew.
Kate Mulgrew: No, it's MulGREW.
Craig Kilborn: Yeah, that's what I said.
Kate Mulgrew: No, you said MULgrew.
Craig Kilborn: Oh the ample bosom is showing. Ohhhh, the ample bosom is showing.
Kate Mulgrew: Now the audience will not understand that association.
Craig Kilborn: Yeah.
Kate Mulgrew: But thank you for that.
Craig Kilborn: I had fun saying it.
Kate Mulgrew: Thank you for that.
Craig Kilborn: You like to talk about it? In the green room you kept talking about your ample bosom.
Kate Mulgrew: I don't like to discuss my ample bosom beyond the opener.
Craig Kilborn: Now this (points to Mulgrew on TV Guide) is ending after seven seasons. It's your show.
Kate Mulgrew: Yeah.
Craig Kilborn: Right.
Kate Mulgrew: It's sad. I have wildly complicated feelings about it.
Craig Kilborn: Explain the complicated feelings. I'd like to decipher them.
Kate Mulgrew: Seven years is a long time. Let me just take a poll of the audience quickly. Who here has dedicated themselves to anything for seven years with complete devotion? (Audience applauds.) That's good. But it's very, very tough. It was a way of life for me.
Craig Kilborn: I've gone for fifteen years with the same hair style. I've a very boring, conservative look.
Kate Mulgrew: (To audience.) He's very deep.
Craig Kilborn: Very deep. The intro to your show --- we have a writer named Alec Sulkin and he thinks, he says he watches the intro to Voyager and he sometimes wells up. There he is, Alec. This is one of our writers, Alec Sulkin.
Kate Mulgrew: Hello, Alec. How are you?
Craig Kilborn: Alec, this is Kate. Alec, what is it about the beginning of the show?
Alec: It's just very powerful. I mean, it's very powerful, the opening of the show.
Craig Kilborn: Do you hear that a lot Kate?
Kate Mulgrew: No. He's making me cry. This guy..
Craig Kilborn: Is he? And now, we're going to watch the opening of your show and we're going to see if he can get through it.
Kate Mulgrew: Oh yes, with music by Jay Chattaway.
(Opening of Voyager while Alec watches and wells up.)
Craig Kilborn: Are you crying?
Alec: I'm welling up. I'm a professional though, Craig. I usually watch at home alone, so it's easier.
Kate Mulgrew: (Laughs) I think he's got it. I like him because he's honest. Most people don't admit to their sentimentality. I watch Johnson and Johnson commercials and just weep.
Craig Kilborn: Do you really do that?
Kate Mulgrew: Absolutely.
Craig Kilborn: Do people say that the opening is moving?
Kate Mulgrew: It is moving. First time I saw that little ship and my name, of course, it's fabulous.
Craig Kilborn: What's going to happen? You get to act with a special person in the last episode.
Kate Mulgrew: Yes I do.
Craig Kilborn: And that special person is?
Kate Mulgrew: Rather diabolical. No, she is not rather diabolical. The set up is.
Craig Kilborn: Why?
Kate Mulgrew: I'm acting against myself and with myself. Captain Janeway ---
Craig Kilborn: Woo. That's double salary.
Kate Mulgrew: --- meets Admiral Janeway.
(Picture of Captain Janeway.)
Craig Kilborn: Do you get paid extra?
Kate Mulgrew: We don't have a shot of Admiral Janeway.
(Pictures of Captain Janeway and Admiral Janeway.)
Craig Kilborn: There you go. So that's you on the right.
Kate Mulgrew: There she is. The very, very young and beautiful Captain Janeway and the very, very old ---
Craig Kilborn: What is that supposed to be, twenty years or so?
Kate Mulgrew: She's seventy-six there, and I'll tell you something interesting, which is of course always bizarre when you are an actress. I slipped so naturally into the skin of the Admiral. I loved her from soup to nuts. From that white wig --- we sort of designed the outfit together.
Craig Kilborn: Your looking forward to that. That's a long way off for you.
Kate Mulgrew: What is? Seventy-six?
Craig Kilborn: Yes, that's fifty some years, forty ---
Kate Mulgrew: Moltissimo kisses on the cheeks and lips.
Craig Kilborn: Are you going to miss the thing?
Kate Mulgrew: I am actually looking forward to it, if I may have one moment of gravity.
Craig Kilborn: Why?
Kate Mulgrew: Because I think that at seventy-six, I'll finally be able to say have you earned some modicum of peace, some grace, some wisdom? Let it go and live.
Craig Kilborn: I've heard people say, if I may --- I entertain for an hour and make them laugh, let me get serious for a moment. I hear it's fun to grow old because you don't care about ---
Kate Mulgrew: You haven't a bleeping clue what it is to grow old.
Craig Kilborn: I'm an old soul. I listen to Sinatra, listen to jazz and I drink too much. I'm an old man.
Kate Mulgrew: High five!
Craig Kilborn: What are you going to do? You're going back to Ohio.
Kate Mulgrew: Ohio. Why oh why oh why oh why did I leave Ohio. My husband lives in Cleveland.
Craig Kilborn: What is he, a senator?
Kate Mulgrew: He is a --- no, he was the county executive of Cuyahoga County for sixteen years, that's commissioner, and before that the Democratic chairman and now he's taking a rather serious, hard look at the gubernatorial race.
Craig Kilborn: Oh my word. Of Ohio?
Kate Mulgrew. Yes. Yes, Ohio.
Craig Kilborn: I though Springer. I thought Jerry Springer was the ...
Kate Mulgrew: Jerry who?
Craig Kilborn: Jerry Springer.
Kate Mulgrew: Jerry Springer.
Craig Kilborn: Is he still there? He was the mayor of Cincinnati.
Kate Mulgrew: I think it's wise that Jerry Springer is not pursuing that, don't you?
Craig Kilborn: You don't like him. Are you excited about --- you're going to be a supportive wife, then.
Kate Mulgrew: I will support him completely.
Craig Kilborn: He gets all that Star Trek money.
Kate Mulgrew: He is the most extraordinary and most decent person I have ever met in my life.
Craig Kilborn: Why do you say that?
Kate Mulgrew: My own husband.
Craig Kilborn: Really?
Kate Mulgrew: Why do I say that? Because it's the truth and my mother introduced us eight years ago in Ireland.
Craig Kilborn: Oh, that's right, I remember this.
Kate Mulgrew: He's her friend. I've got this friend, she says, he's coming over. My mother's friend is Jean Kennedy Smith who was then the ambassador to Ireland. She said I want you to meet Tim Hagan. He's going to see Jean Smith in Dublin but he'll stop over en route in Dingle to see you.
Craig Kilborn: In Dingle? He'll stop en route?
Kate Mulgrew: I had my two little kids.
Craig Kilborn: Right.
Kate Mulgrew: I said, oh that's all I need, a (funny face) democrat (more funny faces and a finger snap). That fast.
Craig Kilborn: Wait a second, you'd never met him before?
Kate Mulgrew: Never laid eyes on the guy.
Craig Kilborn: So you met him.
Kate Mulgrew: It was absolutely instant in the bar in the hotel.
Craig Kilborn: In Dingle.
Kate Mulgrew: In Tralee where we met. Always try to meet in a bar, I say.
Craig Kilborn: And your Mom set you up.
Kate Mulgrew: My mother set me up. But it was, I'm telling you, it was instant. He was supposed to have one drink with me and go to Dublin and see Mrs. --- he stayed for three days. We fell in love.
Craig Kilborn: What was it about him? We know you're beautiful. We know what he saw in you, what did you see in ---
Kate Mulgrew: Thank you.
Craig Kilborn: You want me to run with that now?
Kate Mulgrew: See, that makes me cry. The absolute decency of the man, goodness of the man. Funny.
Craig Kilborn: What, did he pick up the check? What? What? What was so ---
Kate Mulgrew: No, by God, he forgot to pick up the check.
Craig Kilborn: See.
Kate Mulgrew: We'll have to talk about that. He's a marvelous man, but we lost each other and didn't reclaim each other until five years later.
Craig Kilborn: I thought you fell in love with him right away.
Kate Mulgrew: Fell in love, but we lost each other.
Craig Kilborn: How do you lose each other?
Kate Mulgrew: I got this job. He was raising two young girls in Cleveland. He had a big job. So cut to five years later. I'm on this ship with my mother sailing up the Aegean Sea and she asked me what was the greatest, the most profound sadness of my life. There have been a couple, but I said the loss of this --- the love of my life. Now who would that be kitten, she said? I said, well you know it's Tim Hagan.
Craig Kilborn: Wow.
Kate Mulgrew: She got right off that boat, God bless her soul, and she called him and said if you know what's good for you, you'll give my daughter a call right now. And he did. And that was the end of it.
Craig Kilborn: That's great. Very nice. We're out of time. (Holds up TV Guide.) There you are. Good luck.
Kate Mulgrew: Bon voyage. Thank you very, very much.
Craig Kilborn: Thanks for the memories.
Kate Mulgrew: Thank you so much.
Interesting note from someone who attended the taping of The Late, Late Show: If the walk on and hug at the beginning seemed a little flamboyant and fake it's because it wasn't actually Kate's first entrance. The first time she came out she didn't have the mike on, it was waiting for her at the chair. When she went to attach it to her dress she made some cute comment about her ample bosom which explains Kate saying, "Now the audience will not understand that association", when Craig mentions said bosom. Then when she sat down the stage lights went down. They had to reshoot the entrance and she decided to just carry the mike's battery pack with her.
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